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acaykath
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:55 am   

Menus Collapsing[1.34]
 
This has been around forever, but, cMud menus collapse themselves into the short menus despite XP's preferences set to not have that behavior, especially since the commands I use are never on the remaining menu resulting in me having to use an additional click to do anything through the menus.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:29 pm   
 
CMUD's toolbar component doesn't inherit XP's setting about this (perhaps something for the future?). Regardless, to turn it off, click the blue arrow at the end of the toolbar, click Customize, and change the "Menus show recently used commands first" option.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:38 pm   
 
If I could figure out where in the vast system registry Microsoft kept this setting, then maybe I could use it in CMUD. I'm actually just tempted to turn off this "feature" in the menu system completely, since I also hate it. And unfortunately, the "Menus show recently used commands first" option doesn't save across sessions I don't think.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:51 pm   
 
I'm fairly certain it doesn't save across sessions and also I don't think it works very well either. It tends to work only on the last menu you used or for me it certainly seems so and then it collapses the menu to one or two commands even if you've used more.

This is something that is being done by a third party tool that may well work a whole lot better when you update it while doing the Delphi update. It's the command bar third party tool isn't it? I think that is the most bugged UI part of CMUD at the moment, just turn some of the command bar buttons on and off and watch your command line disappear.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:28 pm   
 
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It's the command bar third party tool isn't it?

Yep
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may well work a whole lot better when you update it while doing the Delphi update

Possibly, although they made such massive changes between the v5 version of ExpressBars that I'm using and the new v6 version that it probably contains new problems and will take a while to get working again.
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I think that is the most bugged UI part of CMUD at the moment, just turn some of the command bar buttons on and off and watch your command line disappear.

Maybe you should post details on this to the beta forum if it's still a problem in the 2.x beta. There were some recent changes that fixed some problems with this. But if you right-click on the toolbar and turn off one of the command line toolbars, then your command line is *supposed* to go away. Just right-click on the toolbar and turn it on again. Works fine here.

Also, keep in mind that the toolbar system is also *very* complex. Trying to implement all of the features with customizable toolbars is quite difficult. And I don't think I'd say it's the "most bugged UI part". I actually never have any trouble with it at all compared to some of the obscure problems in the settings editor, for example. So I think you are exaggerating a bit.


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Seb
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:28 pm   
 
Hmm, my instance of CMUD never hides any menu options. And I've never switched off the "Menus show recently used commands first" option - it's still switched on. I'm not complaining though, since I don't like this either. I do have it switched off in Windows though and have never customised my menus in CMUD. Win XP Pro SP2 with Large Fonts.
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